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Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Council benefits draw more fire
By MARIAH MERCER

FEATURES WRITER

Fostoria City Council’s plans to cut non-union employees’ health care benefits met opposition at Tuesday’s meeting from those employees.

“While there are only a handful of non-union employees, we always take the brunt of the cutbacks whenever the city has a financial problem. We are the first to have our pay cut and the last to see it return to normal,” Fostoria Municipal Court clerk Janice Russell read from a statement on behalf of herself and deputy clerks Amy Dieter and Pamela Blachuta.

Employees had believed a pay raise was under consideration for council, but the legislation had been amended prior to the meeting. Council members approved a pay freeze at $5,400 for themselves through 2012.

“I’d like to remind the public that council went for many, many, many years without a pay increase. ... It’s not like council is doing this because it makes a boatload of money,” said Councilwoman Barbara Marley.

The state of the Council’s health care and full-time benefits, however, were another sticking point.

“As full-time employees, we feel that we are being penalized: We are subsidizing the benefits of the part-time elected officials on city council. Currently, the members of city council enjoy the same benefits that a full-time employee receives. At best, a council member puts in approximately five to 15 hours per week. There are no other jobs in existence where a person can work only a few hours a week and collect full-time benefits of health insurance and retirement,” Russell’s letter continued.

Sgt. Patrick Brooks of the Ohio Patrolmen’s Benevolence Association Command Division Union also encouraged Council to make cuts in light of the cuts it is asking of the unions. He pointed out the safety forces had made a number of voluntary cuts, including not taking overtime for mandatory training sessions, using personal vehicles for training and not taking their ammunition allowance for the last year.

“My membership has made it explicitly clear if Council and the city is wanting us to bite the bullet and take pay cuts or take some financial cuts to help the city through these financial times, council needs to be willing to do the same thing,” said Brooks.

At the request of several union employees, Mayor John Davoli proposed an ordinance to restrict health care benefits to full-time elected officials only. The ordinance died without a reading when no member of council would make a motion.

Following the meeting, Davoli stated he had contacted other mayors and cities as well as businesses and said he could find no other entity that offered such benefits to part-time employees.

“This will be the last time I talk about this. We have a core group of council that want to control everything with the city manager form of government because their main mantra is they want to run the city like a business. And here we are. I want them to find me one business out there who pays full health, dental and pharmaceuticals. It’s the most hypocritical thing I’ve seen in my 14 years in government. ’Let’s run it like a business, let’s run it like a business, let’s run it like a business — except when it comes to me,” said Davoli.

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James Carp wrote:
Census
“ The 2000 Census report stated that about one in four Fostorians does not have a high school diploma. Less than one in ten had a college degree.

Voting rights laws passed in the 1960's prevented literacy tests and poll taxes as voting requirements.

In 1971 a constitutional amendment was added to the United States Constitution making it legal in all fifty states for an eighteen year old to vote.

It is illegal to deny someone the right to vote based on educational level, age, sex, or previous social status in the United States.

I would hope the local media investigates further the comments by local elected leaders, that went unchallenged by other elected leaders, concerning "jobs lost to Mexico" or "an eighteen year old dropout or other unqualified person" becoming mayor.

The discussion over whether to adopt a city manager has little to do with illusory job losses to Mexico, a bordering nation that is one of America's greatest allies, trading partners, and a nation America shares so much common culture with.

Neither do comments disparaging high school dropouts should not discourage or intimidate voters from casting votes on the issues and candidates in the upcoming election. People drop out of school for many reasons that often are not of their own choosing or affecting their ability to vote.

But such comments, without further explanation or context, do mean something as to who should serve on city council.



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James Carp wrote:
voting
“ Consider that in a union you probably have the right to vote on a contract before the age of eighteen. Your vote is equal to that of any other
worker.

Many persons under eighteen who work belong to unions, including in the Fostoria community.


The city council president has been quoted in the paper casting doubts on whether those who do not have high school diplomas should even vote (one in four Fostorians, by the 2000 census count, does not have a diploma). Also, that younger persons should not vote.

A student just graduating from high school at eighteen has just completed an education that included math, science, vocational skills such as business classes, and civics and history classes. They also have been involved with many school activities. Many have held jobs and have had serious family responsibilities.

St. Joan of Arc and Alexander the Great were teenagers when they achieved historical significance and greatness. There is a St. Joan of Arc church parish in the Diocese of Toledo.

What other restrictions to voting does the council and council president "see" in the future along with the change to a city manager form of government?

Seems eliminating literacy tests through civil rights legislation in the 1960's and lowering the voting age to eighteen in 1971 (so soldiers, many without a high school diploma, could vote) have had some definite positive results.

The last election for President saw a Vietnam veteran (with a female vice presidential candidate whose political career started as a mayor) run against a multiethnic, African-American candidate (who owes much of his political success and election victory to a Chicago, Illinois based political system that has a strong mayor government at its center).

That is America, is it not?








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Lil Nell wrote:
Council
“ As I see it, city council and the present BOE are one and the same. It is just a paycheck and benefits to them. They neither listen to or represent the people ho elected them. Twenty years is too long to be effective. There should be term limits and in response to a "17 year old" running for office, there are many "young" people out there who can do as well or better than many of those in office! What does Mr. Droll consider "unqualified"? Who are the "very talented people" in office and what are their talents and if that is the case they wouldn't NEED a benefit plan since they would have one from their employer or retirement! Separation of powers is what our country was established on and it is the best of any other form around! I totally agree with "resident and Theresa". Out with the old and let's get some new blood on both council and the BOE!We need to rebuild our community not a business! ”
resident wrote:
this
“ unions aren't the answer either.. unions are archiac and really have no purpose anymore other than driving the cost of business up. ”
James Carp wrote:
Council
“ Elected official have not passed legislation to require businesses in Fostoria to pay anything but the minimum wage with no benefits.

Therefore, elected officials should not receive any benefits and be paid what is reflected by the minimum wage
(council is not that highly overpaid)

Benefits for city employees should be fully paid based on hours worked. Part-time employees should receive benefit compensation per each hour worked.

Base salaries and wages of city employees should relfect the median wage of what persons in the community earn (the 2000 Census reported that to be about 32000 dollars.)

Two questions: What is the ratio of men to women working for the city government? What is the compensation of men compared to women who work for city government?

The council should encourage all employees who can to seek union representation if they wish to so they may benefit from collective bargaining.

The city will have increased revenue if the school levy passes due to construction related activity.

No public money should be spent on tourism. (Tourism should not be discouraged, either).

The schools (public and private) are the biggest tourist attraction the city has. (the city also hosts several all-star and pre-season games). There is not even a close second in terms of outside tourists in the form of visiting sports fans and those attending music, theater, and other school activities.

The city building site is a much more marketable publically owned building than either publically owned Field or Riley schools.

The council should have declared its intention to move city offices to Field and Riley if the levy passes. Then the city building site could be sold for downtown development.









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Teresa wrote:
City council
“ I agree with the comments "resident" wrote. These council members have no business collecting full benefits when they only work part time. Are these members employed full time somewhere else?? If so, why aren't they using those insurance benefits instead?? Not only is this a load of bull, it is not fair to the residents of Fostoria that have no insurance at all!! If these council members honestly believe it is fair to collect these benefits do we really want them in office?? These are the same people pushing for a city manager. These council members have to be elected into their positions and yet they want the responsibility of naming a city manager without the vote of the Fostoria residents. Basically, if the city manager says or does something they don't agree with, they can just get rid of them!! I don't know about the rest of the residents, but I personally DO NOT want people like that running the city. They are a bunch of power hungry idiots that want total control!! It is definitely time for a change in Fostoria. Lets get rid of these city council mongers and get real people that care about Fostoria and it's future. Let's "run it like a business" and ask for their resignations. An 18 year old drop out could do a better job than they are. Vote NO on city manager!! ”
resident wrote:
mr droll
“ 20% isn't even an acceptable amount of a copay. I pay 75% of my insurance costs premium and my business pays the rest. Anywhere I have ever worked the employees contributed atleast 60%. So why don't you go back to council and run the numbers at 60% and see what you come up with. THAT is what will help this city out not a measly 20% and no matter what NO EMPLOYER WILL PAY FULL INSURANCE OR EVEN ALLOW A PT EMPLOYEE EVEN GET COVERAGE.

Maybe I will run for council in the next election, whose seat can I take? I live on E. North St and Towne St.
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Joe Droll wrote:
Know the facts and have the courage to use your name.
“ Dear resident, I have been on council for over 20 years and usually I am pretty good at ignoring comments made by anonymous sources but you caught me at a weak moment. Facts are: 4 of the 8 council members use city healthcare and actually now pay 20 percent of the premium compared to 10 percent for all other employees. I have never taken health benefits in over 20 years so that blows your theory as to why I serve on council.Reality is that having that benefit available probably has encouraged some very talented people to run for office who might not have otherwise. I serve because I truly care about our community which is why I fully support the charter amendment to change to a city manager. I have served long enough to see what works and what doesn't and our current system has not served us well. Regardless of who is Mayor or who holds my office we need to make this change! I am very confident that all well informed voters understand what is at stake. Since you seem to have all the answers perhaps you should consider running for office, but the problem is you would have to use your real name and be held accountable. ”
resident wrote:
about time
“ i've been saying this on this comment forum for weeks now and it's about time someone stood up to council on this. 99.99% of americans would take a job working 12 hours a week for full benifits even if it was picking up trash. i think that once this is resolved, the current coucil members will not run again because that was probibly their main sticking point for running for office. maybe now we can get people in there who actually care about what happens in town instead of looking out for #1. ”
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